Comments on: Beware the HDMI Cable scam. http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/ Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:48:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Kano http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1312 Kano Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:48:06 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1312 read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulation#Digital_modulation_methods read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulation#Digital_modulation_methods

]]> By: Kano http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1311 Kano Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:45:00 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1311 Lets get a couple of things straight. With HDMI, the digital signal is encoded onto an analogue carrier wave and then at the other side decoded from analogue to digital. This happens in virtually ALL digital signals, including networking, DAB, DVB-S/T, SATA, IDE, etc, etc. There's no way the decoded digital signal can be any different unless there the analogue carrier wave suffers interference, in which case the picture will be seriously degraded. For the analogue signal to suffer enough interference over a short distance to effect the analogue carrier wave is highly unlikely, so a short cheap cable will most likely work fine. Over a longer distance of a few meters, carrier wave signal quality *may* play a part as the analogue carrier could suffer enough interference for the digital decoding process to be corrupted. This is the only situation a higher quality (more expensive) HDMI cable can be justified. Lets get a couple of things straight. With HDMI, the digital signal is encoded onto an analogue carrier wave and then at the other side decoded from analogue to digital. This happens in virtually ALL digital signals, including networking, DAB, DVB-S/T, SATA, IDE, etc, etc. There’s no way the decoded digital signal can be any different unless there the analogue carrier wave suffers interference, in which case the picture will be seriously degraded. For the analogue signal to suffer enough interference over a short distance to effect the analogue carrier wave is highly unlikely, so a short cheap cable will most likely work fine. Over a longer distance of a few meters, carrier wave signal quality *may* play a part as the analogue carrier could suffer enough interference for the digital decoding process to be corrupted. This is the only situation a higher quality (more expensive) HDMI cable can be justified.

]]> By: nk http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1308 nk Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:40:48 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1308 Thanks. You saved me some coin. Thanks. You saved me some coin.

]]> By: Hilary Sheener http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1307 Hilary Sheener Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:13:11 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1307 Ive got to say that I've used both cheap cables and more expensive cables and i have notice a notable difference. Ok, so the HDMI is a digital signal but im telling you, it really does make a difference which ones you use. The one i use works extremely well. Ive had it for years and cant tell you how happy i am - <a href="http://www.monstercable.com/" rel="nofollow">HDMI</a> Ive got to say that I’ve used both cheap cables and more expensive cables and i have notice a notable difference. Ok, so the HDMI is a digital signal but im telling you, it really does make a difference which ones you use. The one i use works extremely well. Ive had it for years and cant tell you how happy i am – HDMI

]]> By: De ideale setup: Mac-powered home cinema / mediacenter http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1306 De ideale setup: Mac-powered home cinema / mediacenter Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:14:56 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1306 [...] dat staat voorop, maar een cinemafiel of audiogek die alleen al een godsvermogen besteedt aan snoertjes ben ik ook niet. Ik lees recensies en loop prijsvergelijkingswebsites af, en kies gewoonlijk voor [...] [...] dat staat voorop, maar een cinemafiel of audiogek die alleen al een godsvermogen besteedt aan snoertjes ben ik ook niet. Ik lees recensies en loop prijsvergelijkingswebsites af, en kies gewoonlijk voor [...]

]]> By: Christina http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1304 Christina Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:09:55 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1304 Once I decided on the 50" T.V. I wanted, I then had to decide where to buy it. I thought if a salesperson was honest about the cables, that would be a great start. I went on-line to The Source, they have a live chat so I asked about the difference in cables.My answer was " Monster Cables are the best in the world, almost handmade, the quality of materials used to make the cable is what matters" The "almost handmade" remark made me laugh. Screw that store.....I'll keep trying. I don't have many options here( north of Toronto) Once I decided on the 50″ T.V. I wanted, I then had to decide where to buy it. I thought if a salesperson was honest about the cables, that would be a great start. I went on-line to The Source, they have a live chat so I asked about the difference in cables.My answer was ” Monster Cables are the best in the world, almost handmade, the quality of materials used to make the cable is what matters” The “almost handmade” remark made me laugh.
Screw that store…..I’ll keep trying. I don’t have many options here( north of Toronto)

]]> By: A Different Hot Carl http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1302 A Different Hot Carl Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:11:50 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1302 Hello. First, I want to say that I just purchased my first HDTV just over a month ago. I'm not very internet saavy, but I started to think more and more about these cables and felt that I was possibly ripped off. My setup is fairly simple: a 46" 240 Hz Sony Bravia with surround sound and blue ray player. I got a great deal from best buy, especially with 0 interest for 3 years, but the cable prices were steep IMO. I bought the 2 monster cable 1000 that were $100 each, and I was told that these were the best ones for a 240 Hz style of TV (said so on the monster box). Both cables are 4'. Personally, the pictures are great and I have no issues, but I bought a cheap one from amazon after reading a few comments. I found virtually no difference when switching back and forth for a football game or watching a movie like "The Boondock Saints" in terms of quality. Honestly, I had a friend switch them in and out, and I really couldn't tell a difference. I can't take them back because the 30 day policy is done, and ebay has these selling new (monster) for around $20.... if there are any buyers. I learned a valuable lesson, but what bothers me most is something marked in a store for $100 can hardly sell for $15 on the internet. I'm happy with my TV (got the surround sound and blue ray for free in the deal), but the cable issue just pisses you off that not only were you dumb enough to fall for it, but that this is purposely done and could have saved about $175 and put that towards something else. The whole point is to learn. I say be safe and buy the cheap one first. If it works, order 4-5 more as backups. If you hate it, try the expensive brand. If you're happy.... good for you.... but if it seems the same, you can easily return it. Hello. First, I want to say that I just purchased my first HDTV just over a month ago.

I’m not very internet saavy, but I started to think more and more about these cables and felt that I was possibly ripped off.

My setup is fairly simple: a 46″ 240 Hz Sony Bravia with surround sound and blue ray player. I got a great deal from best buy, especially with 0 interest for 3 years, but the cable prices were steep IMO.

I bought the 2 monster cable 1000 that were $100 each, and I was told that these were the best ones for a 240 Hz style of TV (said so on the monster box). Both cables are 4′.

Personally, the pictures are great and I have no issues, but I bought a cheap one from amazon after reading a few comments.

I found virtually no difference when switching back and forth for a football game or watching a movie like “The Boondock Saints” in terms of quality.

Honestly, I had a friend switch them in and out, and I really couldn’t tell a difference.

I can’t take them back because the 30 day policy is done, and ebay has these selling new (monster) for around $20…. if there are any buyers.

I learned a valuable lesson, but what bothers me most is something marked in a store for $100 can hardly sell for $15 on the internet.

I’m happy with my TV (got the surround sound and blue ray for free in the deal), but the cable issue just pisses you off that not only were you dumb enough to fall for it, but that this is purposely done and could have saved about $175 and put that towards something else.

The whole point is to learn. I say be safe and buy the cheap one first. If it works, order 4-5 more as backups.

If you hate it, try the expensive brand. If you’re happy…. good for you…. but if it seems the same, you can easily return it.

]]> By: menacekop http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1301 menacekop Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:05:13 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1301 Some very good and intelligent points are being brought up about Analog VS Digital (HDMI) signals running through cables and how the degradation and interference can give you lower quality picture. Some good points have been made, but there are pieces of the puzzle missing. 1. For an analog signal (component, composit, s-video) the cable does make a difference. 2. For digital (HDMI, DVI) the cable does not make a difference. Yes both signals are transmitted via analog sine waves through a cable and both can be interfered upon. But with digital systems the difference in the resulting quality is not so much in the signal but in how the signal is used by the receiving end. In an analog signal the "data" for the picture and sound is "stored" in the signal so any interference applied to the signal will effect its output. In a digital signal there is no "data" stored in the signal. The receiving end only looks at the highs and lows of the sine wave and interprets those highs and lows as one of two things; on or off. So it does not matter how interfered the signal is along the sin wave as long as the receiving end gets that on/off signal it comes out the exact same because there is no analog way of interpreting an on or off. Some very good and intelligent points are being brought up about Analog VS Digital (HDMI) signals running through cables and how the degradation and interference can give you lower quality picture. Some good points have been made, but there are pieces of the puzzle missing.

1. For an analog signal (component, composit, s-video) the cable does make a difference.

2. For digital (HDMI, DVI) the cable does not make a difference.

Yes both signals are transmitted via analog sine waves through a cable and both can be interfered upon. But with digital systems the difference in the resulting quality is not so much in the signal but in how the signal is used by the receiving end.

In an analog signal the “data” for the picture and sound is “stored” in the signal so any interference applied to the signal will effect its output.

In a digital signal there is no “data” stored in the signal. The receiving end only looks at the highs and lows of the sine wave and interprets those highs and lows as one of two things; on or off. So it does not matter how interfered the signal is along the sin wave as long as the receiving end gets that on/off signal it comes out the exact same because there is no analog way of interpreting an on or off.

]]> By: Scott http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1299 Scott Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:57:05 +0000 http://harryitguy.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/beware-the-hdmi-cable-scam/#comment-1299 I found an online hdmi cable site that has given great customer service-Optimized Cable (optimization-world.com). I ordered too short of a cable and they took it back with no restock fee and even gave me a discount on the correct one-highly recommend. I found an online hdmi cable site that has given great customer service-Optimized Cable (optimization-world.com). I ordered too short of a cable and they took it back with no restock fee and even gave me a discount on the correct one-highly recommend.

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